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Dunbar Plumbing was called out to a repeat customer to replace a 50 gallon gas water heater in the residence. Jonathon Way is located in Independence Kentucky off of Pelly Road. Liberty Orchard Subdivision. The customer supplied us with a new 50 gallon GE Rheem gas water heater from Home Depot.

GE Rheem water heaters are a common product sold at Home Depot for water heaters. When we arrived at the residence, here is the situation we were presented with...



As you can see from the picture above, the flue venting for the furnace along with the water heater are incorrectly installed. This was done by the new construction plumber and HVAC contractor when the house was built. The double wall B-vent that's extending down into the basement. This forced the situation given the dimension of the piping and the fittings to make the connections to the furnace and water heater.

If you look closely, you'll see that the draft diverter hood is altered/smashed down in order for the installation to take place. Here is another picture of the situation once the water heater was cut loose.


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It's always best to dry fit your assembly of pvc pipe and fittings to make sure that your installation goes smoothly and without error, preventing any issues that affects the fall or "tilt" of your drain piping. It is very important that your drain piping between your two fixed positions are kept in the equation of determining your amount of fall. Fall or "Pitch" is based on a basic rule of 1/8" per foot fall. 1/4" per foot fall can be used as well if the situation warrants. Having "fall" on the piping is necessary to remove the waste water waste matter from the fixture to the drain line leading to the point of disposal. Sewage disposal can be of a septic system or city sewer. Installing drain piping without proper fall or backpitched, piping that is falling the wrong direction can cause buildup in the newly installed drain piping resulting in a smaller area of the pipe's interior area. This also allows for the new drain to collect waste matter which further worsens the chance for a clogged piping system.
 
Once you measure your pipe to fit into your turns of direction, your pvc fittings, it is then safe to clean and glue your pvc pipe together to complete the task of the drain repair. Remember that it is wise to mark your pipe against the fittings by the hubs making sure your pipe fully enters the hub of your fittings. If this isn't done properly what happens is your measurements of pipe will be incorrect causing the distance between fittings to change, resulting in mistakes. Pencil a line on your pipe in a dry fit equation to make sure that when gauging your pipe before installing that the pipe has travelled fully into the hub of your fittings. It is then safe to glue the pipe to the fittings after this is accomplished.
 
Once your piping is installed by the use of glue and mechanical couplings, make sure that the new piping you erected is properly supported by the use of bracing or strapping in the necessary intervals required for the size of pipe installed. Failure to do this can result in sagging of the pvc pipe. PVC pipe has vulnerabilities when it comes to temperature variances. Extreme heating of the pipe caused by the discharge of heated water, for example a dishwasher utilizing 120F temperature. If the piping is not supported within the necessary distances this plastic piping can begin to sag between fixed positions and cause problems with buildup, creating a 'belly' or low spot that can collect waste matter sealing off the path of flow.
 
Once the piping is strapped, make sure that your mechanical couplings are tightened at the clamps by use of a torque wrench to 60 foot pounds of torque. This is the proper measurement that ensures that the coupling is indeed tight to both sides of the dissimilar materials without leakage. Once this is accomplished then you can operate the plumbing fixtures associated with this drain to test for leaks, making sure that the installation of your new piping is done correctly and without error.  Dunbar Plumbing offers partial or complete drain piping replacement in your home. Please contact us at 859-359-4833 to schedule your replacement by our company to get the job done right.
 
 


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The piping with the holes on this job involved roughly less than 10 feet of piping and there was plenty of evidence that the pipe was not only leaking but heavily clogged at the connection to the cast iron stack.  Our first step was to cut the cast iron wye directly below the hub serving the 2" copper drain. We chose to go this route because right where we cut the cast iron hub off was signs of deterioration that spelled trouble for attempting to extract the lead pour, oakum and brass ferrule from the hub. If the cast iron hub was decent, a service weight gasket would be utilized to put back inside the hub along with new 2" PVC pipe.
 
Using a diamond blade angle grinder along with a bi metal sawzall blade we were able to safely remove the hub leaving a short jot of cast iron piping leading directly into the 4" cast iron stack. In removing the hub, we found that the short jot of piping was completely clogged with black waste matter. Quick use of a piece of wire scraped out the pipe back to its original diameter, allowing for uninterrupted flow. At the other end of the pipe, the copper drain piping was cut roughly 2" from the intersecting wye that veers off to carry the waste of a nearby tub. The condition of the copper drain piping was in satisfactory shape from that point forward, limiting the amount of pipe removal.
 
Now that both ends of the drain piping was removed, the next step involved utilizing the correct mechanical fittings that rejoin dissimilar materials together. Cast Iron to PVC - PVC to Copper. The mechanical coupling for each end of this joining of new PVC pipe consists of a rubber type connector with a pair of stainless steel hose clamps and a stainless steel covering to secure the rubber connection from expanding. This is a code requirement in most states in the country and provides the best connection design for this type of repair. This also allows for easy removal of connections if the need for drain cleaning when there is no access.
 
Once the rubber connection (No Hub Mission Coupling) was installed on the short piece of 2" cast iron pipe, from there the transition of pvc pipe is introduced and the direction of the pipe and fittings in pvc generally follow that of the existing. Keep in mind though that pvc pipe fittings will be different than copper and have longer sweeps. This will prevent the ability to cut piping lengths the same size of the copper drain piping that is removed.

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A repeat customer of ours contacted us to address a leak in the garage of their home on sylvan drive. Sylvan drive is located in independence kentucky. Dunbar Plumbing has done numerous plumbing tasks at this location and the house was built in the 1970 era.

Given the age of this home, Cast Iron was the majority of drain stacks inside this home with the rest of the branches done in copper drain piping. Copper drain work was something that simplified the installation of plumbing and due to the cost of piping in 3" or 4" copper, the use of cast iron was the preferred method. However over time what results in the aging of copper piping, the piping has a predetermined "life" before issues result in its use.

When we arrived at the home, first inspection of the piping arrangement led to the majority of the drainage system piped in the garage area. This along with minor removal of the ceiling revealed what was leaking onto the floor. A 2" copper drain line that connected into the main 4" cast iron stack had evidence of pinholes in the piping in the last foot of piping before transitioning into cast iron. Here is a brief explanation of what to expect on piping systems where cast iron drain piping and copper drain piping are mixed:
 
Most if not always when copper drain piping is used in older homes, a brass ferrule is utilized in the cast iron hub that connects to the larger piping. This, over time creates a situation where the transition itself starts to corrode and close up the inside diameter of the pipe. When this problem occurs, the waste matter that is travelling through the piping system is slowed down and causes buildup in the copper piping leading to the cast iron hub.
 
This area right before the copper enters the cast iron hub is where pinholes, or thinning of the piping occurs. Back in the day when copper drain lines were introduced, the actual thickness of the copper drain piping is paper thin to begin with, roughly 1/16" of an inch. With products such as detergents, acidic food waste, urine, and any other mixtures of household chemicals and products provides a cocktail of fluids/gels/liquids that travel through the copper drain lines and eventually become lodged in the piping whether it is a coating or clumps, gathering in turns or directions of the piping.
 
Over time, this collection of products serves as the problematic issues that lead to pinholes or deterioration of copper piping inside the system, leading to replacement.  It is common to see homeowners using electrical tape, wrapping the piping where the holes are found to be leaking to 'buy time' before finally replacing the piping. This surely is not the correct way to fix a plumbing problem, but nonetheless it is a method that provides a temporary fix until the piping is replaced correctly and according to code.

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Dunbar Plumbing was contacted by a customer today in Walton Kentucky. The location of this property was close to Mary C. Grubbs Highway where it intersects with US25. Main Street in Walton is the short 2.5 mile section of US25 that stretches from where Walton-Nicholson road intersects with US25 onto Mary C. Grubbs Highway intersection.
 
Customer had an issue with all three fixtures backing up on the second floor of the house.
 
Toilet
Lavatory
Tub
 
Customer mentioned that when the lavatory and/or the tub faucet was ran, the toilet would start to gurgle instantly. Since no other drains were affected in the house, this lead to the issue being isolated to the 2nd floor only in the structure.
 
The customer already removed the toilet before we arrived, as it was confirmed that the drain system would have to be accessed through that vantage point to clear the obstruction. As we noticed upon arrival, wastewater was sitting in the closet bend and any water ran from the tub or lavatory in the same bathroom instantly raised the water level in the closet bend that serves the toilet.
 
Using our medium machine, we inserted our drain cable into the toilet arm to remove the obstruction. What was immediately stopping us was not known initially as we would enter the drain roughly 2 feet approximate and get hung up badly inside the drain. A quite unusual circumstance as the piping leading from the closet flange is minimum 3" and most if not all structures in the Northern Kentucky Area are 4" when stretching 40+ years or older.
 
We made 4-5 attempts to clear the obstruction with next to no success. It was when the property owner pointed out to us in the lower level of the house that all the piping was visible to the bathroom by removal of a panel. This property is new to both the property owner as well us, and the property is being rented by tenants.
 
The house had also sat vacant for a few weeks before being occupied which would be partially the issue at hand why we were called out to clear an obstruction in this drainage system. Once we were able to get a visual on the piping arrangement it was clear to see "why" the cable was jamming up inside the piping arrangement.

The drain piping immediately went from 3" to 4" cast iron piping. The major issue was a tee laying on its side which is a clear code violation in today's requirements. Serving out of the top of this 4" tee was the 2" cast iron drain serving the lavatory drain in the same bathroom. Once that connected to the tee, the drain continues at a slope heading towards a ninety degree turn vertical into the closet and heading towards the basement.  Being able to see this piping arrangement gave us the ability to understand why the cable was jamming inside the tee as it was trying to head back through the 2" drain serving the lavatory drain.

 
With some much needed trial and error, numerous shots into the drain finally got us heading the cable towards the vertical 4" drain pipe heading into the piping. This instantly addressed the clogging issue allowing the water inside the closet bend to slowly start dropping, signifying that whatever was holding back the waste matter and wastewater was finally leaving the piping system. We continued to run the drain cable machine inside the piping and took the drain cable the full length to make sure that the waste matter was clearly out of the drain system.
 
Along with running the tub faucet and lavatory in the same bathroom at full force while the cable was still inside the drain. This technique is a great way to keep all that was built up inside the drain continuing on out, using the water as the helper to rid the piping of waste matter.
 
It was our assumption that during the time this house sat vacant that possibly the toilet was used for the last time before the house went vacant, the waste matter never made it out of the horizontal bend of the piping. This waste matter then had time to sit and solidify including toilet paper that turned into hard paper mache in consistency. With the new tenants arriving and unaware of this situation, the buildup started against this hardened mass inside the piping and eventually closing off the pipe completely, disallowing flow through the pipe.
 
This happens quite frequently when homes are vacated and no one is there to keep the water running through the drains. This situation can happen both in a new home where pvc pipe is commonly found for drainage piping, just as much as say an older home could have with cast iron piping, galvanized or copper. If you have a home whereby you're going to sell in the near future, make sure that when you leave the property for good that the toilets and all fixtures are ran heavily for repeated times to remove any waste buildup inside the piping.

This will prevent the unexpected surprise when the new property owners move in, looking at the previous homeowners like they hid some disasterous piping inside the home that's going to be a chronic problem. (they think)

 
The customer in this case (since the toilet was already pulled) reset the toilet after our job was complete. This was a cost saving measure afforded to the property owner to save money on our expense to show up and resolve the issue. This was a first time customer that reached us via internet through Google trying to find someone to resolve the plumbing issue 'today' as it was the only bathroom in the structure serving the needs of 3 people living in the home.


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Here is a video of a three handle to single handle tub and shower faucet conversion in a bathroom. We provided the new delta faucet along with remodel plate to cover the existing three hole pattern in the wall.
 
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRUD-sdvd1s" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRUD-sdvd1s</a>
 
 
This job was located on Marilyn Drive in Independence Kentucky. Repeat customers of Dunbar Plumbing.  We are Northern Kentucky Plumbers providing service plumbing work in the Northern Kentucky area.

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The plumbing system in the hotel obviously has a partial clog/obstruction in the system and it is allowing waste to enter back through the path of least resistance. I would imagine if you was to watch whenever someone flushes a toilet above your room or in the same system, it probably backs right into that toilet.
 
That can become progressively worse over time if it is not taken care of. I would advise them to have the drain system cleared, which might mean in close proximity. Possibly pulling that very toilet to access the drain system to clear it.

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Video of the tornado aftermath in Joplin Missouri. This is by far the worst destruction I've ever seen by one tornadic event.
 
 
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv3COQ6gv-8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv3COQ6gv-8</a>
 
 
 
 

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Been slowly watching this all unfold from the great plains with concern for all the people who have lost truly everything, including some that lost family members.


It's always easy to surmount what loss is to some, but unless you've lived what these people are going through... it's like leaving for work one day and all you come back to is nothing. No clothes, no food, no property to speak of because it was blown a mile one direction away with no chance to find it.


Many prayers to those families struggling right now and it will be many months before they have anything to call home in the time to come. I would say fema trailers will be their makeshift living acquisition in the meantime.


On another note,


I'm fascinated by the destruction in the method of how the internet and technology now records these events in a real time design. The weather channel was pulling live feeds all day yesterday that was showing the formation clouds becoming a tornado.

Here is a tornado ripping a truck to shreds. I personally have never been able to witness the destruction as it happens, only from a past tense point of view with mainly still frame pictures.


Here are pictures of what Oklahoma went through last night. I'd say insurance companies are going to be spending more than they are making this year in premiums.

Here is a loop feed reflectivity map of the United States from any vantage point to see the current weather patterns. I have it set to my region but you can click on the boxes below to see any incoming weather 24-7.

Here is the facebook Weather Channel Page that deals directly with all the latest information that has important warnings and emergency information.

There is a live feed that also will have streaming video that is taken from storm chasers in the area where the storms are currently in.

Here are some videos that are currently updated from time to time of weather caught on tape.


TOR:CON Index is a rating given to predict the likelihood of a tornado.

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Off Topic - Discussions / Re: Famous Mottos
« on: May 13, 2011, 10:30:52 PM »
"Women don't like men that don't work. It's like your penis fell off, no matter how big it is."

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Dunbar Plumbing was called out to an emergency service call to repair a leaking delta shower faucet. This house was located on Landview Drive in South Covington Kentucky. Landview Drive is off the Hands Pike Subdivision that is the major road that serves both Ridgeport Subdivision and Crystal Lake Subdivision. Hands Pike to Tamarack Drive, to Evergreen Drive to Hawks Ridge to Landview Drive. Homes in this subdivision are over 12 years or newer in construction. Most common faucet brand in this subdivision is Delta Faucet Company.
 
This leaking tub and shower faucet was leaking and was attempted to be repaired by a friend of the family. Our first concern was whether the faucet had been damaged beyond repair but that did not seem to be the case. Here is a picture of the type of faucet we worked on to stop the leaking.
 

 
 
After speaking with the owner of the home, I was able to find out that the faucet had never been worked on in regards to replacement of the cartridge inside of the faucet. In the Northern Kentucky area, Delta Faucets had an issue with their pressure balanced cartridges that are designed for the monitor series faucets. The single handle tub and or tub and shower or shower only faucets. A problem with the plastic housing where the balancing spool was that could cause interference in how the balancing spool effectively slides back and forth when there are pressure fluctuations. Delta came out with a better and improved cartridge that solved this problem, providing the cure to the ongoing issues.
 
Here is a picture of the NEW type pressure balanced cartridge that Dunbar Plumbing installs to correct the issues of the older ones.
 

 
 
I'll return to this post and show how we remove the cartridge on these faucets and give some more information as to why these cartridges fail over time, regardless of replacing the internals inside the cartridge.
 
 
 

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It took more than two attempts to get inside the wall cavity, being careful not to vibrate the existing tile wall as it can cause stress fractures that lead to leaks. Once we were able to open the wall cavity, we took the same diamond blade angle grinder and cut the existing brass tub and shower valve into pieces, that way we could unsweat the water lines from the leftover pieces of valve and prepare the piping for the new Delta shower valve. Northern Kentucky Plumbers offers the best product we believe works well for tub and shower faucets; the Delta Faucet. Delta Faucets are heavily installed in the Northern Kentucky Area. A product that was used commonly in the new construction field in subdivisions across the area. Delta Faucets offer a price line that is comparable to a decent faucet that follows builder's grade, but also provides a longevity standard as well for reliability not only in repair aspects but in finish reliability as well. Of course, newer faucets today with some of the finishes on plastic chrome bodies I do not believe will stand the test of time. I'm referencing faucets made by Delta years ago comprised of brass bodies with chrome over brass trims. These seem to be the best on the market for going the distance in reliability.
 
 
Once the wall was completely open and all parts of the existing faucet were removed, we then began to install the new faucet, reworking the water lines so it would match into the new shower valve being installed. Pictures are to come soon of the step by step process so you can see how the before and after pictures look.
 
 

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Dunbar Plumbing - Northern Kentucky Plumbers removed a 3 handle tub and shower faucet, installed a single handle faucet for a customer on Madison Pike in Independence Kentucky. Madison Pike is actually SR17, a very well travelled road that leads from Covington Kentucky all the way to Butler Kentucky. The location of this job was near the Independence Administrative Building near the Independence Firehouse. This is considered the "new" part of Independence where Kroger grocery store, numerous restaurants and gas stations are located.
 
 
This customer of Dunbar Plumbing contacted us through a family member describing a situation that was urgent. A main water shutoff valve was leaking profusely that required immediate attention. The property owner attempted to repair a leaking tub and shower faucet and in the process of doing so the main shutoff began to leak. After making a temporary repair to the shutoff valve, we determined that high water pressure was to blame for the leaking main shut off and the tub and shower faucet on the first floor. This customer has decided to take care of the water pressure issue by installing a Pressure Reducing Valve and a Thermal Expansion Tank. These two devices are used quite often to reduce water pressure inside a home to a safe setting. Most if not all fixtures, valves and appliances that require the use of a water supply state 60 pounds of pressure is what the products are engineered for. Anything above this pressure can cause premature wear and tear on the wearable parts such as fast acting solenoid valves, rubber seat washers, fill valves in toilets, cause stem packings to leak on valves.  :sign0085:
 
 
Given the age of the 3 handle tub and shower faucet was quite old, we recommended the upgrade of a single handle faucet that is pressure balanced, offering thermal protection while taking a shower. It was explained to the customer what is involved in the process of the upgrade. Numerous hours sitting inside the tub, opening the wall around the existing faucet, installing the new faucet while adapting to the water lines inside the wall and setting the new trim of the faucet that conceals the hole in the wall that accesses the valve. Our customers at Dunbar Plumbing enjoy the option of being able to use the faucet almost immediately after installation of the faucet.
 
 
This installation proved to be a more time consuming job than first thought, mostly because of the situation involving the thickness of the wall. When we extract existing tub and shower valves from the wall, a diamond blade angle grinder is used to cut into the tile/grouted wall. The thickness of the blade in depth into the wall usually is enough to gain access to the wall cavity. Not so in this particular case. Read more...

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